[itdiscuss] Fax Service

Jeffrey Thompson jthompsonic at gmail.com
Tue Oct 14 09:01:09 EDT 2008


I have been told from multitudes of seasons VOIP people that fax works  
over SIP but not reliably since one error in the SIP protocol causes  
an entire fax to fail.

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On Oct 14, 2008, at 8:37 AM, "Justin Moore" <wantmoore at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'll go the opposite direction on this, just for fun. Fax over SIP
> trunks *can* be reliable. I know of several organizations that use SIP
> ATA's in house to plug their fax machines in on one side and plug into
> the data network on the other side. The fax is carried via SIP back to
> the Asterisk server where its sent out an analog line or channel on
> their T1/PRI.
>
> The issue to be concerned with is bandwidth. If you can somehow
> guarantee bandwidth for your SIP trunks/channels between your fax
> endpoint and your SIP provider, this may actually work quite well. The
> only good situation I can think of where this may be a reality though
> is if your telco is providing your trunks over a direct internet line
> back to them (T1, MetroE, etc) and are able to QoS that traffic.
>
> As an alternative, I'd suggest you look in to the T.38 protocol which
> is a spec of how to send regular faxes over data networks (additional
> error checking, etc). There are some providers out there providing
> T.38 termination via SIP/IAX. This would allow you to continue to use
> your existing fax machines.
>
> I can provide more specific info if you want - what kind of phone
> system is this for?
>
> Justin Moore
> aka wantmoore
> ---------------------------------------
> www.wantmoore.com
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Jeffrey Thompson <jthompsonic at gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>> You are right about not wanting to put fax over SIP.  That is not  
>> reliable.
>> A fax service that converts your faxes into PDF and forwards it to  
>> you is a
>> great idea I think.  MaxEmail has a good fax to PDF and vice versa  
>> PDF/Word
>> attachment to fax service.
>>
>> MaxEmail: http://maxemail.com/
>> --
>> Jeffrey Thompson
>> jthompsonic at gmail.com
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Bobby Stewart
>> <bStewart at brentwoodbaptist.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> We are in the process of moving our telephone services.  
>>> Eventually, this
>>> will mean that we are moving from a traditional PRI to SIP  
>>> trunking. I
>>> am seeing that there is a potential impact on data over SIP (for  
>>> faxes
>>> and MODEMs). Because of that I am considering a fax service to  
>>> receive
>>> faxes. I'm also curious about outgoing fax reliability.
>>>
>>> Those fax services are currently being handled through our PBX over
>>> traditional PRI which is uncompressed, therefore, no real impact on
>>> transmission.
>>>
>>> What might any of you be using or what might you suggest I consider.
>>>
>>> Bobby Stewart
>>> Network Analyst
>>> Brentwood Baptist Church
>>> Brentwood, TN
>>> (615) 324-6149 office
>>> (615) 830-0012 cell
>>>
>>>
>>>
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