[itdiscuss] Backup Software Revisited

Mon Apr 20 13:35:31 EDT 2009

Dan,

I am just using the Desktop edition.  The school nor myself personally needs
multiple 'Accounts' which is what the Workgroup edition is for.  You can run
the jungledisk software on multiple machines on one account.

I phased in about 20gb at a time selecting new folders each weekend and
sometimes several nights during the week in order to get everything added.
You can just go into the selection criteria and add new folders and those
folders will be backed up that night.  How long it will take depends greatly
on your internet connection.  The school has a bonded 2 T1 connection so I
was able to realistically get about 350 or so kb/s which translates to about
21mb per minute or 1.2gb per hour.  That is of course best case and so I
would estimate lower to take into account normal traffic.

It does have bandwitdth limiting built in so you could limit what it is
allowed to use for uploading backup data so it could run during the day.

If you had let's say a T1 to use for backup and could limit it to 1mb so
512kb is still available for other needs then you could expect to transmit
about 10gb per day so it would take you 30 days to get everything completely
backed up.

As long as you have the time to get everything backed up then once it is
done the daily changes will be easy to get overnight.

As for the Exchange and Sql, the school uses neither but if I were using it
for that then I would back up the NTBackup version of Exchange and the SQL
backup files and if I needed to restore would restore the exchange files and
mount as a recovery store and either connect to that mailbox and export data
or exmerge it to a .pst and import that into the current mailbox.

-Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org [mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org]
On Behalf Of Dan Barber
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 9:33 AM
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Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] Backup Software Revisited

Jason,

I have been looking for something like this. Which edition do you use?
How long did the first sync take? I think we currently have about 300GB of
data. However, at that price, I might increase the amount being backed up.

Also, with Bill's question: what do you do with Exchange and SQL? Are you
only doing database-level restores? If so, would you just mount that as a
new database if you needed to restore a single mailbox or mailbox folder?

Dan

From: discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org
[mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hand
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 10:22 AM
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Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] Backup Software Revisited

You really ought to look at the Amazon S3 with Jungle Disk as an option for
offsite.  It is very inexpensive.  It does bit level changes and I have it
running for a school that has about 150gb of data stored on the
S3 account and uploading changed and new data nightly for about $35/month.

You can look at all of the costs involved and estimate how much your monthly
cost would be on the Jungle disk site:
http://www.jungledisk.com

-Jason

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From: discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org
[mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org] On Behalf Of Dan Barber
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 12:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] Backup Software Revisited

We have just added space (or are least in process) for disk-to-disk backups
(though probably only for incremental during the week). We will still
probably use Tape and transport it offsite, simply because the online
storage/gb is not cost-effective yet. 

Dan

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[mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org] On Behalf Of Tony Dye
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 11:28 AM
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Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] Backup Software Revisited

Dan, are you planning (wanting?) to stay with tape backup, or would you
consider a remote backup solution?  (or a mixed on-site/off-site
disk-to-disk, or whatever)

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[mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org] On Behalf Of blloyd at buskercom.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 12:24 PM
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I currently us Retrospect from EMC and it works well.  It is especially good
at restoring data.  

I'm looking at something called StoreGrid, http://www.vembu.com/index.php,
because it promises to backup data at the bit level and with its replication
server software it gives you the ability to replicate the backup to an
off-site location.  It also appears to take a less-resource intensive backup
of Exchange mailboxes.

Bill Lloyd
IT Manager

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Gainesville, GA 30507
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[mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org] On Behalf Of Dan Barber
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 12:02 PM
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Subject: [itdiscuss] Backup Software Revisited

I am again revisiting the question of backup software. I have been using
most recently Commvault Galaxy Express, and am finding it significantly
difficult to use. I am looking for something easy to use, reliable, will
be doing disk-to-disk daily and tape on weekends. I also want something
with decent notification abilities; I don't want to have a lot of false
alarms.

What do you use and how has it been for you?

Dan Barber

Kirk of the Hills

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