[itdiscuss] Question about big picture of IT at churches

[Darin Rohatinsky]

Hey Bill,
Thank you.  I agree with you.  There doesn't seem to be a lot of motivation
for my church to find someone full time to run IT because now they have
working email and me here to put out the fires.  But once I'm gone, I don't
want to see them stranded.  I liked your idea of having someone here who is
already involved in ministry somehow to where an 'IT' hat as well.

Email me (darinr at livinghopechurch.com) with any questions about the
migration to Google Apps from Exchange.

Darin

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:38 AM, <blloyd at buskercom.com> wrote:

>  Either application sounds like it has potential to frustrate users.  I
> know in our church we made a conscious decision to give local admin priv to
> all users because we don’t have a full time IT person.  We felt that the
> cost of restricting users at a time when they might most need their system
> to do something, which requires admin priv, was much higher than letting
> them have control over their systems.
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> From the big picture perspective, I think your church sounds like it is at
> a stage where they need someone there full time, given the number of
> workstations.  Otherwise things will get messed up in the long run.  As  you
> know a full time person gives the environment stability and consistency.
> Once that is lost then users tend to do whatever they think is necessary to
> get their job done, regardless of the safe guards and policies.  That can
> lead to a big mess which will be very hard for a part-timer to straighten
> up.
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> One possibility is to set something up like a church that I know about
> which has a “facilities manager” who has IT as one of his charges.  That
> seems to work well for them.  I think they are about your size.
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> By the way, I’d be real interested in knowing how you managed the
> transition from Exchange to Google Apps.
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> Thanks,
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> Bill Lloyd
> IT Manager
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> *From:* discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org [mailto:
> discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org] *On Behalf Of *Rob Shaw
> *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2009 2:12 PM
> *To:* discuss at itdiscuss.org
> *Subject:* Re: [itdiscuss] Question about big picture of IT at churches
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> Darin,
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> Why don’t you look into Microsoft’s Steady State.  It’s free and could be
> used as a roll-back point while still allowing user to install software:
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> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/sharedaccess/default.mspx
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> *From:* discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org [mailto:
> discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org] *On Behalf Of *Darin Rohatinsky
> *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2009 2:05 PM
> *To:* discuss at itdiscuss.org
> *Subject:* [itdiscuss] Question about big picture of IT at churches
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> This might sound just absurd to some of you, but this is where we're at.
>  Currently at our church, we have one primary domain controller.  We use
> active directory mainly for file sharing and permissions (and the
> convenience of people being able to log on at different workstations).  We
> use Google Apps for email (got rid of Exchange).  We probably have roughly
> 10 Macs, 30 Windows workstations, and 20 or so Windows laptops.  There are
> about 10 network printers as well.
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> I'm going to be working back in the secular world full time again, and
> there's one other part time IT person who is here sometimes, but mainly I'm
> running things.  The other person wants to install Deep Freeze<http://www.faronics.com/html/Deepfreeze.asp>in hopes that we can automate our IT infrastructure here when I'm gone.  I
> don't think that's really possible or smart, because things go wrong, people
> need software, etc...  What are your thoughts on this?  Do you think there
> is a strong argument for needing someone to run things in IT?  Or do you
> think his proposal of automating IT is realistic???
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> Darin
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