[itdiscuss] Phone/Data vendors
Glenn Kelley
glenn at vinehosting.com
Tue Jan 26 16:17:32 EST 2010
Dan
Speakeasy almost always is reselling someone else's fiber.
So they mark it up a little
For metro-ethernet generally there are 1 maybe 2 that actually service your community - the rest lease the line.
So - get the rates - from all and then shop them hard.
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On Jan 26, 2010, at 4:13 PM, Dan Barber wrote:
> We are on Nuvox now and have not had a problem with them in like 6 years on the data side; however, phone side of things is not always that way, but that may be our old systems as much as anything.
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> Dan
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> From: discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org [mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org] On Behalf Of Ian Beyer
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> Our experience with nuvox (several years ago) wasn't stellar, we
> switched to paetec, and then this past summer moved over to TW telecom.
> TW won hands-down on technology.
>
> Ian Beyer
> Network Administrator
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> [mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org] On Behalf Of Ron Beatty
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:08 PM
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> We use a company called Paetec, but they have no local support staff. We
> are switching to a company called Nuvox that I have been impressed with.
> Until we make the cutover I can't give you any facts about their
> service, but I have heard very good things about them. I looked at
> CBeyond and they were a close second IMO to Nuvox.
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> Good to hear they are still around and doing it right.
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> CBeyond is still active in the Atlanta area, and they give excellent
> service.
>
> You can contact Sloan Gavin - His cell # is: (678) 577-7680.
>
> He is a Sales Manager and so has more flexibility in dealing with his
> customers (pricewise), than does the average sales rep over there.
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> James Winterbower
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>> From: bcameron at fumclv.org
>> To: discuss at itdiscuss.org
>> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 09:56:58 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] DNS Help! - rDNS/PTR
>>
>> We have been using DNSMadeEasy dot com for all our dns needs,
> including
>> reverse pointing. It is easy to set up, and easy to manage. We had the
> same
>> issue 2 years ago when we moved our email service in-house. Once we
> set up
>> dns with them, it took about 2 hours to propagate through the
> internet, and
>> we were golden. If I make a change to any of our settings now, it
> takes
>> about 20 minutes to update dns through the internet!
>>
>> Thank You,
>> Bob Cameron
>> IT Administrator
>> First United Methodist Church Lawrenceville
>> 770-963-0386 x158
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>> 1. Re: DNS Help! - rDNS/PTR (blloyd at buskercom.com)
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>> From: <blloyd at buskercom.com>
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>> At my previous employer we had the same exact problem with our service
>
>> provider and the way we overcame it was to move all of our DNS
> services
>> to EasyDNS. They provided the PTR records as well as all of the
>> standard DNS services. The other advantage is that anything to do with
>
>> DNS was handled by one company and it wasn't dependent on any service
>> provider. So if we found a service provider that offered better
>> services for a better price we could move to them without worrying
> about
>> who would handle pieces and parts of our DNS needs. If EasyDNS
> provides
>> such services, I'd be willing to bet there are others as well.
>>
>>
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>> [mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org] On Behalf Of Dayron Daugherty
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>> The "owner" of the IP address (ATT) is the master of the reverse DNS.
> If
>> they won't change it doesn't matter what a 3rd party DNS service is
> set
>> to.
>>
>> Say bye bye to AT-T if possible. We moved off of them long ago as well
>
>> as I've moved 2 clients off of AT-T. In Chattanooga Comcast is a
>> surprisingly great service to go with for small business, but for more
>
>> demanding needs our power utility (EPB) offers fiber internet.
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't know where you are, but in the past when I lived in Atlanta I
>> moved my company there to Cbeyond communications from AT-T (both data
>> and phone). It was a great move. I can't speak to Cbeyond's reputation
>
>> now (that was over 5 years ago) but check them out if they are in your
>
>> area.
>>
>>
>>
>> If I recall I went with the Beyond Voice package.
>>
>> http://www.cbeyond.net/business/packages.htm
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>> [mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org] On Behalf Of
> blloyd at buskercom.com
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>>
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>> EasyDNS is easier and cheaper to work with than Network Solutions.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill Lloyd
>> IT Manager
>>
>>
>>
>> 2567 Athens Hwy.
>> Gainesville, GA 30507
>> Phone: 770-417-1604 Ext.: 250
>> Fax: 770-417-1747
>> Cell: 404-379-6963
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>> blloyd at buskercom.com
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>> You may want to look at EasyDNS.com. They have a reverse DNS service
>> available, along with the regular DNS services.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill Lloyd
>> IT Manager
>>
>>
>>
>> 2567 Athens Hwy.
>> Gainesville, GA 30507
>> Phone: 770-417-1604 Ext.: 250
>> Fax: 770-417-1747
>> Cell: 404-379-6963
>>
>> blloyd at buskercom.com
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>>
>> Thanks for the feedback. That's what I expected too but was told "no."
>>
>>
>>
>> How long ago was your exchange with them? This could be new policy.
>> Lots of frustrated folks on the 'net about this but I just can't move
>> this domain to ATT in the middle of the week. I shouldn't have to
>> anyway...like they are holding me hostage.
>>
>>
>>
>> James
>>
>>
>>
>> From: discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org
>> [mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org] On Behalf Of Jim Helton
>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:12 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] DNS Help! - rDNS/PTR
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>>
>>
>> I don't know about the specific IP Flex service but I've had AT&T do a
>
>> reverse DNS entry for us in the past to our mail server for the
> church.
>> We have Domain registration with Network Solutions, Web hosting on a
>> different provider and our reverse dns entry from AT&T (Bellsouth is
> who
>> has it listed).
>>
>>
>>
>> All I had to do was send an email to an address that AT&T gave me and
>> they made the dns change.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jim Helton
>>
>> IT/Communications Director
>>
>> MM Systems Corporation
>>
>> Tel: 706.824.7500
>>
>> Fax: 706.824.7536
>>
>> Direct: 706.824.7525
>>
>> j.helton at mmsystemscorp.com
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>> www.mmsystemscorp.com <http://www.mmsystemscorp.com/>
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>> [mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org] On Behalf Of JamesA
>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:52 PM
>> To: discuss at itdiscuss.org
>> Subject: [itdiscuss] DNS Help! - rDNS/PTR
>>
>> So we recently moved 100% of our Internet services to AT&T "IP Flex"
>> service. We're having an issue with Reverse DNS when trying to send
>> emails to some domains that do the rDNS lookup on each message because
>
>> we don't have it in place.
>>
>> I've tried SPF, TXT, SRV, etc. - no dice.
>>
>> Domain registrar is currently Network Solutions.
>>
>> AT&T won't create a PTR record for me pointing back to my mail server
>> unless they "host" the domain for me, which I don't want to do for
>> multiple reasons, including the downtime that such a move would incur.
>>
>> What can I do? Is a SmartHost an option? I'm not familiar with them
>> but am desparate now and ATT is not being at all flexible.
>>
>> -James
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill Lloyd
>> IT Manager
>>
>> Busker Communications
>> 2567 Athens Hwy.
>> Gainesville, GA 30507
>> Phone: 770-417-1604 Ext.: 250
>> Fax: 770-417-1747
>> Cell: 404-379-6963
>>
>> blloyd at buskercom.com
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