[itdiscuss] Phone/Data vendors
Dan Barber
dbarber at kirkofthehills.org
Tue Jan 26 16:21:38 EST 2010
When I was comparing them to our Nuvox, as far as I can tell Nuvox does not have a "Business Ethernet." Most of what I have seen is bonded/fractional T1s. Anyone using something other than the traditional T1 and getting great results at a decent price? We have 2 offsite facilities and are always looking to speed communication.
Dan
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Dan
Speakeasy almost always is reselling someone else's fiber.
So they mark it up a little
For metro-ethernet generally there are 1 maybe 2 that actually service your community - the rest lease the line.
So - get the rates - from all and then shop them hard.
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On Jan 26, 2010, at 4:13 PM, Dan Barber wrote:
We are on Nuvox now and have not had a problem with them in like 6 years on the data side; however, phone side of things is not always that way, but that may be our old systems as much as anything.
Dan
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Our experience with nuvox (several years ago) wasn't stellar, we
switched to paetec, and then this past summer moved over to TW telecom.
TW won hands-down on technology.
Ian Beyer
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United Methodist Church of the Resurrection (Map)
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We use a company called Paetec, but they have no local support staff. We
are switching to a company called Nuvox that I have been impressed with.
Until we make the cutover I can't give you any facts about their
service, but I have heard very good things about them. I looked at
CBeyond and they were a close second IMO to Nuvox.
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Good to hear they are still around and doing it right.
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CBeyond is still active in the Atlanta area, and they give excellent
service.
You can contact Sloan Gavin - His cell # is: (678) 577-7680.
He is a Sales Manager and so has more flexibility in dealing with his
customers (pricewise), than does the average sales rep over there.
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 09:56:58 -0500
Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] DNS Help! - rDNS/PTR
We have been using DNSMadeEasy dot com for all our dns needs,
including
reverse pointing. It is easy to set up, and easy to manage. We had the
same
issue 2 years ago when we moved our email service in-house. Once we
set up
dns with them, it took about 2 hours to propagate through the
internet, and
we were golden. If I make a change to any of our settings now, it
takes
about 20 minutes to update dns through the internet!
Thank You,
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At my previous employer we had the same exact problem with our service
provider and the way we overcame it was to move all of our DNS
services
to EasyDNS. They provided the PTR records as well as all of the
standard DNS services. The other advantage is that anything to do with
DNS was handled by one company and it wasn't dependent on any service
provider. So if we found a service provider that offered better
services for a better price we could move to them without worrying
about
who would handle pieces and parts of our DNS needs. If EasyDNS
provides
such services, I'd be willing to bet there are others as well.
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The "owner" of the IP address (ATT) is the master of the reverse DNS.
If
they won't change it doesn't matter what a 3rd party DNS service is
set
to.
Say bye bye to AT-T if possible. We moved off of them long ago as well
as I've moved 2 clients off of AT-T. In Chattanooga Comcast is a
surprisingly great service to go with for small business, but for more
demanding needs our power utility (EPB) offers fiber internet.
I don't know where you are, but in the past when I lived in Atlanta I
moved my company there to Cbeyond communications from AT-T (both data
and phone). It was a great move. I can't speak to Cbeyond's reputation
now (that was over 5 years ago) but check them out if they are in your
area.
If I recall I went with the Beyond Voice package.
http://www.cbeyond.net/business/packages.htm
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EasyDNS is easier and cheaper to work with than Network Solutions.
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You may want to look at EasyDNS.com. They have a reverse DNS service
available, along with the regular DNS services.
Bill Lloyd
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Thanks for the feedback. That's what I expected too but was told "no."
How long ago was your exchange with them? This could be new policy.
Lots of frustrated folks on the 'net about this but I just can't move
this domain to ATT in the middle of the week. I shouldn't have to
anyway...like they are holding me hostage.
James
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I don't know about the specific IP Flex service but I've had AT&T do a
reverse DNS entry for us in the past to our mail server for the
church.
We have Domain registration with Network Solutions, Web hosting on a
different provider and our reverse dns entry from AT&T (Bellsouth is
who
has it listed).
All I had to do was send an email to an address that AT&T gave me and
they made the dns change.
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So we recently moved 100% of our Internet services to AT&T "IP Flex"
service. We're having an issue with Reverse DNS when trying to send
emails to some domains that do the rDNS lookup on each message because
we don't have it in place.
I've tried SPF, TXT, SRV, etc. - no dice.
Domain registrar is currently Network Solutions.
AT&T won't create a PTR record for me pointing back to my mail server
unless they "host" the domain for me, which I don't want to do for
multiple reasons, including the downtime that such a move would incur.
What can I do? Is a SmartHost an option? I'm not familiar with them
but am desparate now and ATT is not being at all flexible.
-James
Bill Lloyd
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