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Glenn Kelley
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Tue Jan 26 16:56:05 EST 2010
Having been in many an organizations switching centers (both telco and data) including: Comcast, PAEtec, XO, Level 3, UUNet, Verizon, PAEtec, Switch & Data, SunGard, 1102 Grand / KCNAP, to name a few ... only a few impressed me much.
SunGard is 100% Tier 4 top Notch, Comcast @ the DC level is awesome - however use of routine trailer like head ends is not unheard of...
Level 3 top notch as well.
While in the Philadelphia PAETec facily - I was far from impressed... reminded me of an XO level quality.
Good but Not Great.
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On Jan 26, 2010, at 4:41 PM, Ron Beatty wrote:
> I was quite dissatisfied with Paetec's technical support and ability to
> give me any information regarding issues when I did have them. But that
> was just my experience. One of the selling points for us with Nuvox was
> cost. We asked for quotes from both companies and theirs was
> significantly lower than Paetecs.
>
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> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:24:07 -0600
> From: "Bobby Stewart" <bStewart at brentwoodbaptist.com>
> Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] Phone/Data vendors
> To: "IT Discussion Forum" <discuss at itdiscuss.org>
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> We too were with NuVox. Now in contract with PAETEC. All is pretty good.
> They were able to give us an EXCELLENT deal on 10Mb Ethernet over fiber
> with dynamic phone product. Service has been pretty good. Had a little
> rough history with PAETEC but the deciding factor was their hot being
> able to deliver the circuit at the time and price points were
> significantly different.
>
> Bobby Stewart
> Network Analyst
> Brentwood Baptist Church
> Brentwood, TN
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> (615) 324-6149 office
> (615) 830-0012 cell
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org
> [mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org] On Behalf Of Ian Beyer
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:10 PM
> To: IT Discussion Forum
> Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] Phone/Data vendors
>
> Our experience with nuvox (several years ago) wasn't stellar, we
> switched to paetec, and then this past summer moved over to TW telecom.
> TW won hands-down on technology.
>
> Ian Beyer
> Network Administrator
> United Methodist Church of the Resurrection (Map)
> Tel: 913-544-0288
> Twitter: @cyberentomology
> Skype Me!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org
> [mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org] On Behalf Of Ron Beatty
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:08 PM
> To: discuss at itdiscuss.org
> Subject: [itdiscuss] Phone/Data vendors
>
> We use a company called Paetec, but they have no local support staff. We
> are switching to a company called Nuvox that I have been impressed with.
> Until we make the cutover I can't give you any facts about their
> service, but I have heard very good things about them. I looked at
> CBeyond and they were a close second IMO to Nuvox.
>
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> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 12:57:49 -0500
> From: "Dayron Daugherty" <ddaugherty at precept.org>
> Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] DNS Help! - rDNS/PTR
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> Good to hear they are still around and doing it right.
>
>
>
> From: discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org
> [mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org] On Behalf Of James Winterbower
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 10:09 AM
> To: IT Discuss
> Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] DNS Help! - rDNS/PTR
>
>
>
> CBeyond is still active in the Atlanta area, and they give excellent
> service.
>
> You can contact Sloan Gavin - His cell # is: (678) 577-7680.
>
> He is a Sales Manager and so has more flexibility in dealing with his
> customers (pricewise), than does the average sales rep over there.
>
> James Winterbower
> 1-Call Computer Services
> Voice: (404) 273-7599
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> From: bcameron at fumclv.org
>> To: discuss at itdiscuss.org
>> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 09:56:58 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] DNS Help! - rDNS/PTR
>>
>> We have been using DNSMadeEasy dot com for all our dns needs,
> including
>> reverse pointing. It is easy to set up, and easy to manage. We had the
> same
>> issue 2 years ago when we moved our email service in-house. Once we
> set up
>> dns with them, it took about 2 hours to propagate through the
> internet, and
>> we were golden. If I make a change to any of our settings now, it
> takes
>> about 20 minutes to update dns through the internet!
>>
>> Thank You,
>> Bob Cameron
>> IT Administrator
>> First United Methodist Church Lawrenceville
>> 770-963-0386 x158
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 09:33:31 -0500
>> From: <blloyd at buskercom.com>
>> Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] DNS Help! - rDNS/PTR
>> To: <discuss at itdiscuss.org>
>> Message-ID:
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>> At my previous employer we had the same exact problem with our service
>
>> provider and the way we overcame it was to move all of our DNS
> services
>> to EasyDNS. They provided the PTR records as well as all of the
>> standard DNS services. The other advantage is that anything to do with
>
>> DNS was handled by one company and it wasn't dependent on any service
>> provider. So if we found a service provider that offered better
>> services for a better price we could move to them without worrying
> about
>> who would handle pieces and parts of our DNS needs. If EasyDNS
> provides
>> such services, I'd be willing to bet there are others as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org
>> [mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org] On Behalf Of Dayron Daugherty
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:24 AM
>> To: IT Discussion Forum
>> Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] DNS Help! - rDNS/PTR
>>
>>
>>
>> The "owner" of the IP address (ATT) is the master of the reverse DNS.
> If
>> they won't change it doesn't matter what a 3rd party DNS service is
> set
>> to.
>>
>> Say bye bye to AT-T if possible. We moved off of them long ago as well
>
>> as I've moved 2 clients off of AT-T. In Chattanooga Comcast is a
>> surprisingly great service to go with for small business, but for more
>
>> demanding needs our power utility (EPB) offers fiber internet.
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't know where you are, but in the past when I lived in Atlanta I
>> moved my company there to Cbeyond communications from AT-T (both data
>> and phone). It was a great move. I can't speak to Cbeyond's reputation
>
>> now (that was over 5 years ago) but check them out if they are in your
>
>> area.
>>
>>
>>
>> If I recall I went with the Beyond Voice package.
>>
>> http://www.cbeyond.net/business/packages.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org
>> [mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org] On Behalf Of
> blloyd at buskercom.com
>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:43 PM
>> To: discuss at itdiscuss.org
>> Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] DNS Help! - rDNS/PTR
>>
>>
>>
>> EasyDNS is easier and cheaper to work with than Network Solutions.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill Lloyd
>> IT Manager
>>
>>
>>
>> 2567 Athens Hwy.
>> Gainesville, GA 30507
>> Phone: 770-417-1604 Ext.: 250
>> Fax: 770-417-1747
>> Cell: 404-379-6963
>>
>> blloyd at buskercom.com
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> blloyd at buskercom.com
>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:24 PM
>> To: discuss at itdiscuss.org
>> Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] DNS Help! - rDNS/PTR
>>
>>
>>
>> You may want to look at EasyDNS.com. They have a reverse DNS service
>> available, along with the regular DNS services.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill Lloyd
>> IT Manager
>>
>>
>>
>> 2567 Athens Hwy.
>> Gainesville, GA 30507
>> Phone: 770-417-1604 Ext.: 250
>> Fax: 770-417-1747
>> Cell: 404-379-6963
>>
>> blloyd at buskercom.com
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>> From: discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org
>> [mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org] On Behalf Of James Arnold
>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:16 PM
>> To: IT Discussion Forum
>> Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] DNS Help! - rDNS/PTR
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback. That's what I expected too but was told "no."
>>
>>
>>
>> How long ago was your exchange with them? This could be new policy.
>> Lots of frustrated folks on the 'net about this but I just can't move
>> this domain to ATT in the middle of the week. I shouldn't have to
>> anyway...like they are holding me hostage.
>>
>>
>>
>> James
>>
>>
>>
>> From: discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org
>> [mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org] On Behalf Of Jim Helton
>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:12 PM
>> To: IT Discussion Forum
>> Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] DNS Help! - rDNS/PTR
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't know about the specific IP Flex service but I've had AT&T do a
>
>> reverse DNS entry for us in the past to our mail server for the
> church.
>> We have Domain registration with Network Solutions, Web hosting on a
>> different provider and our reverse dns entry from AT&T (Bellsouth is
> who
>> has it listed).
>>
>>
>>
>> All I had to do was send an email to an address that AT&T gave me and
>> they made the dns change.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jim Helton
>>
>> IT/Communications Director
>>
>> MM Systems Corporation
>>
>> Tel: 706.824.7500
>>
>> Fax: 706.824.7536
>>
>> Direct: 706.824.7525
>>
>> j.helton at mmsystemscorp.com
>>
>> www.mmsystemscorp.com <http://www.mmsystemscorp.com/>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org
>> [mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org] On Behalf Of JamesA
>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:52 PM
>> To: discuss at itdiscuss.org
>> Subject: [itdiscuss] DNS Help! - rDNS/PTR
>>
>> So we recently moved 100% of our Internet services to AT&T "IP Flex"
>> service. We're having an issue with Reverse DNS when trying to send
>> emails to some domains that do the rDNS lookup on each message because
>
>> we don't have it in place.
>>
>> I've tried SPF, TXT, SRV, etc. - no dice.
>>
>> Domain registrar is currently Network Solutions.
>>
>> AT&T won't create a PTR record for me pointing back to my mail server
>> unless they "host" the domain for me, which I don't want to do for
>> multiple reasons, including the downtime that such a move would incur.
>>
>> What can I do? Is a SmartHost an option? I'm not familiar with them
>> but am desparate now and ATT is not being at all flexible.
>>
>> -James
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill Lloyd
>> IT Manager
>>
>> Busker Communications
>> 2567 Athens Hwy.
>> Gainesville, GA 30507
>> Phone: 770-417-1604 Ext.: 250
>> Fax: 770-417-1747
>> Cell: 404-379-6963
>>
>> blloyd at buskercom.com
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> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:24:59 -0600
> From: "Dustin Drewery" <ddrewery at crossroadsokc.com>
> Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] Phone/Data vendors
> To: "'IT Discussion Forum'" <discuss at itdiscuss.org>
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> I agree.. get the rates but you can usually bypass the middle man. We
> actually looked at Nuvox as they had a better price. I was able to work
> AT&T down below that price once I showed them the Nuvox offer and
> reminded
> them that Nuvox was just leasing their lines. Customer service for a lot
> of
> these companies seems to be different across the nation. My experience
> tells
> me that its all based on your sales rep.. if I have issues, I call him
> and
> since its his commission, everything works better. Just a little food
> for
> thought.
>
>
>
> dustin-sig
>
>
>
> From: discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org
> [mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org]
> On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:18 PM
> To: IT Discussion Forum
> Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] Phone/Data vendors
>
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> Speakeasy almost always is reselling someone else's fiber.
>
> So they mark it up a little
>
>
>
> For metro-ethernet generally there are 1 maybe 2 that actually service
> your
> community - the rest lease the line.
>
> So - get the rates - from all and then shop them hard.
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ____
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>
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> Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to.
>
>
>
> On Jan 26, 2010, at 4:13 PM, Dan Barber wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> We are on Nuvox now and have not had a problem with them in like 6 years
> on
> the data side; however, phone side of things is not always that way, but
> that may be our old systems as much as anything.
>
> Dan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org
> [mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org]
> On Behalf Of Ian Beyer
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:10 PM
> To: IT Discussion Forum
> Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] Phone/Data vendors
>
> Our experience with nuvox (several years ago) wasn't stellar, we
> switched to paetec, and then this past summer moved over to TW telecom.
> TW won hands-down on technology.
>
> Ian Beyer
> Network Administrator
> United Methodist Church of the Resurrection (Map)
> Tel: 913-544-0288
> Twitter: @cyberentomology
> Skype Me!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org
> [mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org] On Behalf Of Ron Beatty
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:08 PM
> To: discuss at itdiscuss.org
> Subject: [itdiscuss] Phone/Data vendors
>
> We use a company called Paetec, but they have no local support staff. We
> are switching to a company called Nuvox that I have been impressed with.
> Until we make the cutover I can't give you any facts about their
> service, but I have heard very good things about them. I looked at
> CBeyond and they were a close second IMO to Nuvox.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org
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> 1. Re: DNS Help! - rDNS/PTR (Dayron Daugherty)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 12:57:49 -0500
> From: "Dayron Daugherty" <ddaugherty at precept.org>
> Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] DNS Help! - rDNS/PTR
> To: "IT Discussion Forum" <discuss at itdiscuss.org>
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> Good to hear they are still around and doing it right.
>
>
>
> From: discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org
> [mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org] On Behalf Of James Winterbower
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 10:09 AM
> To: IT Discuss
> Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] DNS Help! - rDNS/PTR
>
>
>
> CBeyond is still active in the Atlanta area, and they give excellent
> service.
>
> You can contact Sloan Gavin - His cell # is: (678) 577-7680.
>
> He is a Sales Manager and so has more flexibility in dealing with his
> customers (pricewise), than does the average sales rep over there.
>
> James Winterbower
> 1-Call Computer Services
> Voice: (404) 273-7599
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: bcameron at fumclv.org
>
> To: discuss at itdiscuss.org
>
> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 09:56:58 -0500
>
> Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] DNS Help! - rDNS/PTR
>
>
>
> We have been using DNSMadeEasy dot com for all our dns needs,
>
> including
>
>
>
> reverse pointing. It is easy to set up, and easy to manage. We had the
>
> same
>
>
>
> issue 2 years ago when we moved our email service in-house. Once we
>
> set up
>
>
>
> dns with them, it took about 2 hours to propagate through the
>
> internet, and
>
>
>
> we were golden. If I make a change to any of our settings now, it
>
> takes
>
>
>
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> 1. Re: DNS Help! - rDNS/PTR (blloyd at buskercom.com)
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> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 09:33:31 -0500
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> From: <blloyd at buskercom.com>
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> Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] DNS Help! - rDNS/PTR
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> At my previous employer we had the same exact problem with our service
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> provider and the way we overcame it was to move all of our DNS
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> to EasyDNS. They provided the PTR records as well as all of the
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> standard DNS services. The other advantage is that anything to do with
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> DNS was handled by one company and it wasn't dependent on any service
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> provider. So if we found a service provider that offered better
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> services for a better price we could move to them without worrying
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> about
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> who would handle pieces and parts of our DNS needs. If EasyDNS
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> such services, I'd be willing to bet there are others as well.
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> [mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org] On Behalf Of Dayron Daugherty
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:24 AM
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> Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] DNS Help! - rDNS/PTR
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> The "owner" of the IP address (ATT) is the master of the reverse DNS.
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> If
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> they won't change it doesn't matter what a 3rd party DNS service is
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> to.
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> Say bye bye to AT-T if possible. We moved off of them long ago as well
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> as I've moved 2 clients off of AT-T. In Chattanooga Comcast is a
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> surprisingly great service to go with for small business, but for more
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> demanding needs our power utility (EPB) offers fiber internet.
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> I don't know where you are, but in the past when I lived in Atlanta I
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> moved my company there to Cbeyond communications from AT-T (both data
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> and phone). It was a great move. I can't speak to Cbeyond's reputation
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> now (that was over 5 years ago) but check them out if they are in your
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> If I recall I went with the Beyond Voice package.
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> http://www.cbeyond.net/business/packages.htm
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> From: discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org
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> [mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org] On Behalf Of
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> blloyd at buskercom.com
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> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:43 PM
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> EasyDNS is easier and cheaper to work with than Network Solutions.
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> Bill Lloyd
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> IT Manager
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> 2567 Athens Hwy.
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> Gainesville, GA 30507
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> Phone: 770-417-1604 Ext.: 250
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> Fax: 770-417-1747
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> Cell: 404-379-6963
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> blloyd at buskercom.com
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> [mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org] On Behalf Of
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> blloyd at buskercom.com
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> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:24 PM
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> Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] DNS Help! - rDNS/PTR
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> You may want to look at EasyDNS.com. They have a reverse DNS service
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> available, along with the regular DNS services.
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> Bill Lloyd
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> IT Manager
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> 2567 Athens Hwy.
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> Gainesville, GA 30507
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> Phone: 770-417-1604 Ext.: 250
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> Fax: 770-417-1747
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> Cell: 404-379-6963
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> blloyd at buskercom.com
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> [mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org] On Behalf Of James Arnold
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> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:16 PM
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> Subject: Re: [itdiscuss] DNS Help! - rDNS/PTR
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> Thanks for the feedback. That's what I expected too but was told "no."
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> How long ago was your exchange with them? This could be new policy.
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> Lots of frustrated folks on the 'net about this but I just can't move
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> this domain to ATT in the middle of the week. I shouldn't have to
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> anyway...like they are holding me hostage.
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> James
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> [mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org] On Behalf Of Jim Helton
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> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:12 PM
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> I don't know about the specific IP Flex service but I've had AT&T do a
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> reverse DNS entry for us in the past to our mail server for the
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> church.
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> We have Domain registration with Network Solutions, Web hosting on a
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> different provider and our reverse dns entry from AT&T (Bellsouth is
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> who
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> has it listed).
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> All I had to do was send an email to an address that AT&T gave me and
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> they made the dns change.
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> Jim Helton
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> IT/Communications Director
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> [mailto:discuss-bounces at itdiscuss.org] On Behalf Of JamesA
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> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:52 PM
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> Subject: [itdiscuss] DNS Help! - rDNS/PTR
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> So we recently moved 100% of our Internet services to AT&T "IP Flex"
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> service. We're having an issue with Reverse DNS when trying to send
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> emails to some domains that do the rDNS lookup on each message because
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> we don't have it in place.
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> I've tried SPF, TXT, SRV, etc. - no dice.
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> Domain registrar is currently Network Solutions.
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> AT&T won't create a PTR record for me pointing back to my mail server
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> unless they "host" the domain for me, which I don't want to do for
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> multiple reasons, including the downtime that such a move would incur.
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> What can I do? Is a SmartHost an option? I'm not familiar with them
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> but am desparate now and ATT is not being at all flexible.
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> -James
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> Bill Lloyd
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> IT Manager
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> Busker Communications
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> 2567 Athens Hwy.
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> Gainesville, GA 30507
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> Phone: 770-417-1604 Ext.: 250
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